help on subs and amp

Discussion in 'General Car Audio Discussions' started by speedracer008, Dec 20, 2006.

  1. aznboi3644

    aznboi3644 Full Member

    I vote for the Daytons...and I hate liquid nails...wood glue works even better.

    Liquid nails is messing and ugly
     
  2. speedracer008

    speedracer008 Full Member

    verry sorry
     
    Last edited: Dec 21, 2006
  3. speedracer008

    speedracer008 Full Member

    sorry for the triple post
     
    Last edited: Dec 21, 2006
  4. TheViking

    TheViking Well-Known Member

    Guys, the multiple posts are the anti spam issues, so speedy is not at fault here!!!!!
     
  5. DaveDSMer

    DaveDSMer Full Member

    ok let me look at your new set of equipment you are trying for.. first thing i did notice as you keep listing a 2 channel amp.. its better to use a single channel amp for subs generally speaking.. especially for 2 subs that are going to be in the same box.
     
  6. TheViking

    TheViking Well-Known Member




    Ok, first off!

    The boxes you showed.....the ported box...NO, because it is a very cheaply constructed box...it is made of 1/2 inch stock, NOT good!
    Thebandpass enclosure, well, that really scares me!!! Woofers need to have a bandpass enclosure designed for them to perform right, LONG story!!!!! So i dont reccomend that either.


    The RF subs would do OK....BUT the 12 inch dayton in a ported box would still be 3 dB louder with the same given power on 2 of the RF subs!!!!!! Thats like doubling your amplifier power for free!!!! (every 3 decibal increase in sound takes either twice the power or twice the speakers)


    the wiring will work,

    and the amp...It will also work. But that profile one of the guys posted would probably do ya better in all honesty.
     
  7. DaveDSMer

    DaveDSMer Full Member

    ok here man, looks to me like you REALLY want to have TWO 12 inch subs and not spend much money.

    Here we go.
    http://www.crutchfield.com/S-e9gwIc7MfIQ/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?g=520&I=2065C124
    with
    http://www.crutchfield.com/S-e9gwIc7MfIQ/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?g=120&I=489AP700M

    OR

    http://www.crutchfield.com/S-e9gwIc7MfIQ/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?g=520&I=236T4512
    with
    http://www.crutchfield.com/S-e9gwIc7MfIQ/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?g=120&I=489AP1000M

    OR

    http://www.crutchfield.com/S-e9gwIc7MfIQ/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?g=520&I=1081250W
    with
    http://www.crutchfield.com/S-e9gwIc7MfIQ/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?g=120&I=489AP1000M

    Now the best sounding, in my opinion, of the 3 choices is going to be the last. The high sensitivity of the Infinities is really going to help you. Notice that all of this is bought through Crutchfield.. why? All three subs i showed you are on sale for BUY ONE GET ONE FREE.... so you are getting 2 subs for 99 dollars! The Profile Amps have THREE year warranties from Crutchfield. No other internet dealer is going to compare to the help and customer service that they are going to get you hands down.

    So lets review.. we got 2 subs for 99 dollars PLUS an amp between 130-160 dollars (depending on what package you like best) PLUS free shipping. All of which will sound better than those "Punch" subs.
     
    Last edited: Dec 21, 2006
  8. DaveDSMer

    DaveDSMer Full Member

    on a side note:

    If you really dont want to deal with building a box and such I did see these dirt cheap subs already in a box. They have 17 reviews all of which give 5 of 5 star ratings so they cant be that bad.

    http://www.crutchfield.com/S-e9gwIc...asp?g=510&tab=essential_info&i=236RT12X2A#Tab

    just something I wanted to throw out there. I personally would prefer to get one of the packages i showed you above but its all about what you want.
     
  9. TheViking

    TheViking Well-Known Member

    What Dave said will also work.......
     
  10. DaveDSMer

    DaveDSMer Full Member

    yeah dont ever buy a prefabricated bandpass box.. that should be illegal
     
  11. speedracer008

    speedracer008 Full Member

    you think that the pair of infinity's will do good? and im not too woried about having the BEST box..the biggest competition around here is dropfest...and its not that big of a deal so idk...so thoes infinities are better than the mtx's? and the rf's?
     
  12. aznboi3644

    aznboi3644 Full Member

    FIRST OFF...all Rockford PUNCH series subs suck balls...the dustcaps are made from brittle molded plastic...no polypropolyne...crappy thin plastic...the dust cap will crack and break...I hate them...My friends Punch sub's tinsel leads have just randomly snapped and the sub failed twice...my cousin's Punch II has a cracked cone from me barely touching it while it was playing...they suck and are not worth the money you pay for them.

    MTX...not much of a fan of their subs...I do have a MZS1204 sub from them though...pretty nice. But doesn't really hit the lows as hard as my JL12W6

    Speedy...don't look for cheap premade sub packages. Because normally they will sound like crap, not last long, and just suck period. NEVER buy a prefab bandpass enclosure.

    I really like Profile amps for their price to power output...I've owned a Profile Baja HA1000 2 channel amp...it worked very nicely and is a very tough amp...I put it through its paces pushing two Alpine 12 inch Type R's at 2 ohm stereo for hours while it had virtually no airflow across it...the amp was mounted to the box and sandwiched between the back of the box and the back of the rear seats in my explorer...and the amp NEVER overheated.

    But my vote is still for the Dayton Quatro's...Very reputable company...will outperform the RF's anyday of the week.

    You can push em with whatever amp you want...but I'd recommend a Power Acoustik PS2-820...good solid amp

    Really depends on your budget
     
  13. speedracer008

    speedracer008 Full Member

    for instalation kits... would this work http://www.crutchfield.com/S-peZSKbILl9E/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?g=711&I=575CP8PO

    or should i go with this.. http://www.millionbuy.com/ahfkit9.html

    if theese are not good please link me to somthing that will work better

    and will theese hook up my two subs to amp and power my amp?

    the subs i think im getting http://www.crutchfield.com/S-peZSKbILl9E/cgi-bin/prodview.asp?i=236T4512&s=0&cc=01

    and the amp http://www.crutchfield.com/S-peZSKbILl9E/cgi-bin/prodview.asp?i=489AP700M&s=0&cc=01

    let me know if this stuff will work
     
  14. aznboi3644

    aznboi3644 Full Member

    That stuff will work but it is not the best you can get for the money.

    I think MTX subs are overpriced for what you get...I would never get anything below the 7500 series.

    I've seen the 4500s at the local store here and they are light weight and the quality is ok...their excursion is horrible....Sure they'd prolly sound good in an awesome enclosure but can you build one?? For 99 bucks for two of those I'd get rather get some Inifinity References...I've heard them and they sound tight and clean in a sealed box.

    http://www.crutchfield.com/S-Br7GGfbrLTa/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?g=520&I=1081250W

    That amp will do fine...I've had a Profile Baja HA1000. All my friends thought it was the crappiest amp ever...but it pumped out some decent power for 100 bucks.

    As for the amp kit...I usually look for a quality name brand...cheap brands just use thick insulation and little wire and market it as a bigger gauge. If you are getting that Profile amp you WILL NEED a 4 gauge kit as it is recommended. I have a good 4 gauge kit here

    http://www.knukonceptz.com/productDetail.cfm?prodID=KOL-AK4
     
  15. speedracer008

    speedracer008 Full Member

    does anyone have plans for a 2 12" sub box..it will be going in my ford probe hatchback
     
  16. DaveDSMer

    DaveDSMer Full Member

    for the price those two Infinity 12.1's would dominate any one of the others.
     
  17. speedracer008

    speedracer008 Full Member

    alright so for the money thoes two infinity's would be best..

    ok so for amplifiers would i be wanting a two chanel?
     
  18. aznboi3644

    aznboi3644 Full Member

    From two 12's to one BETTER one???

    And you mentioned Audiosuckmyballs??? Get serious man Audiobahn is far from good quality.

    And I don't like the Rockford Punch subs as the cones are really weak and thin molded brittle plastic.

    Only ones good that you mentioned were the JL and the Infinities..I'd go for the Infinities...but I do like JL subs though