06' RE Audio XXX 18s or Soundstream XXX-18s?

Discussion in 'Car Subwoofers' started by kryptonitewhite, Jul 15, 2010.

  1. kryptonitewhite

    kryptonitewhite Full Member

    I am looking at either 6 06'RE Audio XXX 18's, 6 Soundstream XXX-18's, or building my own subs from scratch.

    What I must have: More than my current 30mm Xmax, 40mm Xmech, more than 11 for a Bl ( my subs are custom dual 4 ohm so I believe 8 layer and a touch more Bl than the single 4....as per website for s2 and s4... " Bl: 8.43 N/A | 11.8 N/A" )

    A standard 3.5" p-p 1/2 roll surround will not gain any excursion. I am NOT looking to gain any output from gain in Bl and/or efficiency! So BTL/BL/Q... SMD/HAVOC/Mayhem... Maelstrom-X.. all will be ignored.

    I can get the Soundstream XXX's refurbed for 1/2 the cost of authorized internet RE Audio new.

    I may order coils, plates, pole pieces, double surrounds, basket, etc... and build my own.

    What I have and will NOT change: 50 cubic feet, 20" diameter port 18" long for a 23Hz tune. 4 AP30001D's and electric to back them. LP 31.5Hz 30dB slope, HP 22Hz 30dB slope. Don't like it? please don't post. It's not for your car, it's not for what you like or want, it's not for what's "right" or "wrong" or could or should be done. I know 99% of all posts will be "do this instead" and "youre retarded" and thats fine, I simply ignore them and let you have your fun accomplishing whatevber you get out of taking your time to read all this mumbo jumbo, taking the time to click reply, taking the time to type **** I am going to just skip anyway.

    Those of you who take it seriousely, think outside the box, and at least attempt to help: THANK YOU, much respect!
     
  2. fstrfvo

    fstrfvo Full Member

    Is there a benefit to running 4 AP's instead of something like the Phoenix Gold "the one" or maybe the Kicker warhorse? It would be easier on the wiring, I was just wondering.
     
  3. fstrfvo

    fstrfvo Full Member

    now that i reread your post i see 6 woofers, ok multiple amps is the better way.
     
  4. kryptonitewhite

    kryptonitewhite Full Member

    price. 3kw for $340/ea

    IDK what the one costs, but the warhourse is like 10k maximus 10k
     
  5. kryptonitewhite

    kryptonitewhite Full Member

    4 for the van

    2 for the home theater
     
  6. kryptonitewhite

    kryptonitewhite Full Member

    all three plots using Linkwitz HP 22Hz LP 32Hz
    excursion plots, bringing power up until Xmax is reached
    red 50 cubic feet 23Hz tune. power 49000 watts

    green 50 cubic feet 32Hz tune. power 20000 watts

    Note that at 32Hz, the red is at its peak excursion while green is at its least, and that greens "high side of the impedance saddle" excursion is still very little, as expected. Going from 23Hz to 32Hz is inverted. Whole different ball game.

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    same as above but included 55 cubic feet sealed, yellow, port takes up 5 cubic feet. 20000 watts.


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  7. fstrfvo

    fstrfvo Full Member

    Yea I see just the savings in $$$ is huge. How close do the AP's come to making rated power?
     
  8. kryptonitewhite

    kryptonitewhite Full Member

    NO idea, Im guessing Im getting 1000 before clipping. I need 2 more alts and 2 more batts!


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    talking him into selling his prefab and going single slot port down the side, along the back

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    a lotta work ahead:
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  9. pedro quiroga

    pedro quiroga Well-Known Member

    i've read they will do rated with enough voltage, or at least very close to it.

    2800ish is what a friend told me. he had 2 of them. he has since sold them and went to another brand so he can wire lower than 2 ohms.
     
  10. kryptonitewhite

    kryptonitewhite Full Member

  11. pedro quiroga

    pedro quiroga Well-Known Member

    not on those amps.
     
  12. kryptonitewhite

    kryptonitewhite Full Member

    oh damn, good to know!

    I already started a new thread im puttn on all forums, i may as well still post it... its asking if I can, I believe you..but its also to quiet some arguments Ive created to show Ive made up my mind and IM GOIN RE AUDIO XXX 18S! YEAH!
     
  13. pedro quiroga

    pedro quiroga Well-Known Member

    those amps are already 2 1500's wired together in one huge case. they dont like anything lower than 1 ohm each.

    some one mentioned THE ONE from PG..... as nice as it is, it's 6 grand new. i know thats out of the question, as it's a budget breaker for sure.

    for around 550 each tho crecendo makes a 3k amp thats .5 ohm stable and will do close to 4 or more at 16v. but will still pump out power @ 12v.

    i know a few of my friends with their 3k and 4ch amps. they do well on the meters.

    http://www.crescendoaudio.com/home.php?cat=
     
  14. pedro quiroga

    pedro quiroga Well-Known Member

    4 ohm power @ 13.8V @ .3% THD 855w
    2 ohm power @ 13.8V @ .3% THD 1650w
    1 ohm power @ 13.8V @ .3% THD 3,370w
    .5 ohm power @ 13.8V @ .5% THD 4,030w
    High Voltage:
    1 ohm Power @ 16V @ .7% THD 3,980W
    1 ohm Power @ 18V @ 1% THD 4,530W
    1 ohm Power @ 18V @ 10% THD 5,950W
    2 3KWP Linked/Strapped:
    2 ohm Linked @ 13.8V @ .4% THD 6,445W
    2 Ohm Linked @ 18v @ 1% THD 9000w
    2 ohm Linked @ 18V @ 10%THD 12,050w

    Signal to Noise Ratio 95dB
    Damping Factor >290
    Efficiency 87% at 4 ohm, 60 hz
    External Fuse Rating 300 Amp in-line
    Input Sensitivity 200mV - 8V Variable
    Low Pass Filter 35Hz ~ 350Hz @ 24dB/Slope
    Subsonic Filter 10Hz ~ 60Hz @ 24dB/Slope
    2 Amplifier Strapped Connection Capable: Output Master / Input Slave
    Low Pass Filter 35Hz ~ 350Hz @ 24dB/Slope
    Subsonic Filter 10Hz ~ 60Hz @ 24dB/Slope
    Working Voltage 9.8V ~ 18.5V
    Dimensions (mm) 594mm (L) x 247mm (W) x 61mm (H)
    Dimensions (in) 23.4in (L) x 9.7in (W) x 2.4in (H)

    549.00
     
  15. kryptonitewhite

    kryptonitewhite Full Member

    How about I get RE Audio MX 18's then?
     
  16. pedro quiroga

    pedro quiroga Well-Known Member

    im not going to pretend to know a lot about subs, but those look like they are beasts.

    i know what mine are doing with 600 each in a not exactly to spec enclosure.
    and a teammate of mine runs MT's i think and i love the sound of those.. here i'll show you a pic of his install. its very nice and his truck just sounds fantastic!
    all RE BTW... even the mids and highs..
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    i say go for it. i know they will sound great.