Wiring

I just purchased the RCE-213 component set by MB. I have never hooked up comps before so bare with me.

It side has 1 mid/1 tweet. Each crossover has for terminals that look like the following from left to right:

(Output) | T- | T+ | W- | W+ | (Input) | T- | W- | T+ | W+ |


the instructions (picture) that came with it doesn't really help at all. It shows to only input 2 wires at W+ and W-.... I have done that and the speaker sounds like crap. Am i wiring it correctly?


Also was wondering about the midbass speakers themselves. Each side has a screw and a male disconnect which are obviously connected to eachother. Both sides of the speaker have this. Neither says + or - and both look to be going back to the cone. How can the speaker do this? Does it phase itself?

 

both are same size
I have never seen anything like this.

I know it isnt the crossover now because I hooke it up directly and it sounded real low and unclear. I will take a photo now.

 

now that im looking at the picture, one of the terminals is slightly larger in width... I was using the screws anyways. As you can see in the 3rd pic, both go right to the cone.

 

I went back to see which wire is which and I tried them switched them to see if that made a difference, nope. Still very low and crappy sounding.

 

Larger is Positive.

Yes, both sound absolutely horrible. Im trying them on my home receiver now to make sure i have no loose connections anywhere (it can handle 4 ohms fine).

I have to turn my receiever up about 50 dB to even hear anything, and it still sounds bad. The guy I got them from said they worked fine.. I do believe him but can't figure out why this sounds worse than my $50 sony coaxials running off the HU.

 

They are connected already on the x-over by a piece. This is exactly how I have it wired:



It sounded like Ass on my HU, and sounds exactly the same off my home theater receiver that can pump out 75 watts @ 4 ohms

 

when i tested them in car, it was extremely quiet. i had to turn my HU up alot to hear it...thats why i brought it in to test, i know it won't soun as good free air, but it should atleast play a bit better. You are right though, I had to turn it down to like -35dB (my receiver starts at -100 and goes down) to hear anything remotely considered output. I will put it in a box and test, though i fear it will have same outcome. I did already order an amp to power these speakers in the car.

 

put it in the box.... my cheap coaxials sound better free-air then these do. something has to be wrong. Why would I have to turn my home receiever all the way up to get decent output?

 

OK, i will try and describe how it sounds. You know when you have your cell phone in your pants pocket, and the ringer goes off and its one of those cool ringtone songs you spent $2 on, but it really doesn't matter because you can't hear it anyways... it sounds just like that. Muffled, like someone is listening to headphones a few feet away and you can hear the extra sound coming out of it. Both the mid / tweeter dont seem to be producing any type of accurate noise. The tweeter sounds like someone is swinging around a bag of metal shavings, and the mid sounds like its playing AM radio. Besides that, the volume is extremely low.

the speakers are rated at 40-100 watts i believe, and i know my HU in my car cant give it the power it wants, but the receiver in my house should be able to..unless you just cant power car audio from home equip.

I will get a pic later today for you.

p.s. I also ordered a 75 x 4 @ 4 amp which is on its way, hoping that will solve it.

 

I am hoping my problem is that it wasn;t getting enough power. My amp will be here tomorrow and I will try it again with that.

It is a 4 x 75 watts @ 4 ohm amp... I was going to just use 2 channels, but upon deciding to take out my rear speakers, I could use the other 2 channels to biamp the speakers. Does this drive them better? Is it kind of like having a dedicated stream of energy to each driver instead of taking one stream of power and dividing it up as needed?

 

Anyone?