Have You Ever Been This Drunk?

no, i don't think you are a druggie.

just please do research into the stuff you experiment with.
sometimes, like with DXM, the negatives outweigh the positives.

as far as shrooms are concerned, as long as they are used responsibly, you should be fine. that does'nt mean there are'nt several cases of mushroom poisoning per year, tho.

know what you're eating, what it's going to do, and don't get into dangerous situations like driving. B)

 

That is really fucking disgusting, but at the same time hilarious.

I was bad in college and got pretty messed up on different things (not all at once). I was never a big drinker, but have gotten pretty drunk at friends' houses. I'd never get that drunk in public. But I think I was the most fucked up on shrooms - I was house sitting by myself for a friend and I stayed the night and overdid it in the shroom department. Let's just say I ended up taking all my clothes off and calling myself stupid a lot that night.

 

I made my previous reply without even reading your post. I definitely got mushroom poisoning, but did not need a doctor or trip to the hospital. It was more of a psychological thing for me. I knew people that would take tons of pills and those were more evil than any shrooms were. Man, I and many others were really dumb in college.

 

I doubt you got shroom poisoning if it was just psychological. Shrooms plays tricks with your brain when you are tripping hard. I read somewhere that it is nearly impossible to physically OD on shrooms. You have to eat like 2 ounces or something.
Then again, if you just ate 2 ounces of shrooms, you wont know what that fuck is going on for a day.

 

I guess doing dumb shit is just a part of growing up. That's why i try to be as honest as i can, and share as much info as i can, so that hopefully...

someone will read it, or come and ask me, about anything they plan to do... so they can get some kind of education on the subject. I don't know everything about drugs, nobody does, or possibly can... but i have a TON of info available to me, and a whole lot of experiences i can share.

I've also been a Firefighter and had the priveledge to see some of this shit from the "other side of the fence" if you will.

If i can prevent ONE person from fucking up royally...
Making myself out to be a druggie in front of the entire Intarweb community will have been worth it.

 

This is both true and false.

Shrooms have to be grown in a controlled environment. Sterile, above all else, but humidity and temperature controls are vital. I've seen shrooms being grown in some real shitholes, so contamination is quite a real possibility, and the right kind of contamination can be deadly. You need trusted sources if you can't identify bad shrooms. This is unlikely to ever happen, but it's definitely possible.

On the other hand...
Good shrooms can be mighty potent. an eighth of an ounce of one crop, vs. another, can be like night and day. A person's tolerance will also vary greatly, just like with alcohol poisoning.

A real good trip can make you feel great, or strange in a scary way. Just remember that you've consumed a substantial amount of poison... it's trying to kill you... now grab ahold of it, get on top of it, and ride that bitch... cuz if you're trippin' that hard... it's bout to get even better!

Will you die from eating too many good shrooms? Not quite likely, no. Two ounces is alot to eat of the wretched tasting things. Stick to an eighth and you'll be pretty safe... even contamination should'nt "kill" you in that amount. Make you vomit? sure.

 

Hahahaha!! 2 ounces of shrooms!! Man, that would be sick!

I flipped out only once on shrooms, probably because I was alone and in an uncomfortable environment. I can remember specifically what happened - I was sitting on the couch, mildly tripping and watching Sportscenter. Then all of a sudden the TV screen started doing crazy ass shit and from that point on it was bad. I mean, it was an experience and it didn't do anything bad to me long-term (I think), but the other times I took shrooms it was 100% fun.

BTW, I lived about 1 mile from a cow farm and always got my shrooms there. For a college kid, free shrooms were great.

 

Yeah it would be quite the feast, but again, to hurt yourself may take much more, or much less. We cannot really know, your body weight, fat, metabolism etc all play huge factors. An eighth is the good doseage.

It's like Tylenol, too many, and your liver WILL shit itself.

Yeah, that'll surely do it! Once you've become very experienced, and are fully capable of handling your own trips... you can still scare yourself shitless! But hey, it's part of the fun really... as long as you are'nt on the edge of a high-rise building or jogging in the middle of an expressway.

Your environment and activity have so much bearing on your results and experience, it isn't even funny. The people around you make a huge impact too. Even the music.

It can get out of hand, so anyone reading this, thinking of trying it... get a sitter, a good one.

That's awesome... but at the same time, it's also the leading cause of misidentified shrooms, which lead to most of your cases of poisoning. LOL They can be difficult to identify and easy to mistake. So anyone reading this, thinking of green pastures full of magical feces fungus, do your homework first!

better to be safe, than sorry. :bye:

 

Hey, since i did mention it...

And since i also stated my opinion that prescribed drugs are worse than illegals... check this out, it's quite interesting, if you did'nt know:

 

Interesting that you got caught up in the drug scene, having "clean" friends.
I'm about as clean as it gets (I dont' even drink, never have), but I didn't hang out with any 'clean' people... very little innocence among my friends, save for one militant straightedge sort of friend that I used to skateboard with.
I was never into the straightedge scene, I was never anti-drugs... but I never had the desire to try them.
I had enough friends, witnessed enough hardship, witnessed enough loss of IQ (either temporary or permanent) to know better.
Even now, I prefer to learn from other people's mistakes, take my risks vicariously.

Funny that you mention people losing their jobs, their lives...
I've got two very close friends who are with me no more, suicide end to a downhill spiral related to drugs. I've got a sibling with two illegitimate children, a lack of education, and stunted maturity as a result of the drug use that now - reaching 30 years old - is finally 'waking up' to realize what happens if you don't build the house on a good foundation. Too bad.

The question again, is "Why would you feel the desire to do it to begin with? Bored?"

To me, it's this:

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DXM isn't very smart, good way to cause yourself some serious problems. This is a desperation high. If you're really that bored, please... find a hobby or something. [/quote]
I'm sure one reason that I never got into it was because I wasn't bored.
I've been an avid skateboarder since junior high...
When I was angry, or needed an escape, or stress got too high... I could roll to the local spot, and take my aggression out on the local curb.

It even calms me down now, when I'm raging inside... to just picture what it feels like to just hit a curb at speed, and feel the friction of the metal skateboard truck positively grinding it's metal off on the concrete curb edge, long and fast...

I must have been a pretty angry youth too.. I got good enough to earn some local sponsorships, won the big regional contests. B)

I also don't like to be caught off guard... don't want to be embarassed.
You just aren't "with it" when you are high. Doesn't matter if you are drunk, or high, whatever... you are out of it. Stupid. Couldn't make a valid decision or reaction if you were in a situation were you were shocked sober. Worse, if hallucinating.

On the other hand, there's possibly no greater high than getting into an argument with some emotional freak, and having the wherewithall to use their own words against them, to talk them down into the pavement, agitating them so badly that they want to resort to trying to throw punches at you (and then, having the coordination and quickness that it takes to identify and time defenses with offenses). And even in the end... who swung first?
Good stuff.

But I definitely agree... get a hobby, something to do daily.
I can't even tell you... I look around my house, it's like everything is a potential hobby. Lots of things that would be fun to do that I've just never been motivated enough, or had the opportunity to get around to...

Casemod my PC, build a lowrider RC car with working 'hydraulics' (electric though ), build more custom hot-wheels cars, build another mountainboard, go skateboarding, build my custom beach-cruiser/lowrider bicycle frame, build a body kit for my Pathfinder from scratch, plan and install some trick remote control alarm features in my car, play table tennis, build computer speakers, build a set of dipole home theater speakers, finish building my gainclone setup (finish building my LED'ed power supply first!), remove parts off my car and have them powdercoated, go for a long distance bike ride, find that elusive 'free money' program that I qualify for in the Matthew Lesco book, build a custom passive crossover to run everything in a car off a 2 channel amp.. and make it flexible with switches, and relays, and extra circuits, take the case off my ______ and paint it to customize it to myself, clean my workshop so it's organized to me, finish work in my addition (needs trim), research a better job - or better yet, opportunities for entreprenurealship, put auctions on Ebay for silly items to see if people bite - or better yet, silly and creative enough that people on forums talk about them and pass them around, etc.
I haven't gotten off my seat to even look for motivation, and all that came out in about 2 minutes. I'm sure you can find something more productive, something that stimulates and grows your IQ, rather than kills it.
Just my opinion. :bag:

 

Very long post but a lot of good stuff inside. You only live once, so why not try a few stupid things early? Its one thing to do shrooms a few times in college and its another to eat them everyday at lunch time. To each his own

 

i'm totally cool with your point of view.

you cannot change mine, nor i yours... besides, history is history, but it surely makes for some interesting retrospect.

*beginning footnote: I was'nt going to post in this fashion. Initially, before our phone conversation, i was going to simply explain what drugs mean in my opinion. Somehow... all this came out? I'm not sure how i feel about that but i'm posting it anyways. /footnote*

In a way, i wish i knew some people like you when i was a kid. We were kids at the same time, in nearly the same place, yet we never met till 15 years later.

In a way, i wish i never did make some of the choices i did. Staying in school, not starting tobacco intake, not losing my virginity to some chick i never saw again, busting up my back... all things that sucked. Honestly though, it's made me who i am, and when i think about that good and hard, i really doubt i'd want to change it. All my choices led me somewhere... i'm still going, so when i'm dead i'll hafta figure out where i managed to end up with it.

Drugs... well, i don't regret that. I know many people do, i'm not one of them.

No, not at all.

I began i guess... because i became an outcast. Well, i was born an outcast. I was'nt wanted, and my grandmother would'nt fork over $300 for an abortion, so poof, there i was.

Of course, when you are something that's a "burden" ... you don't have nice clothes, sneakers, bikes, skateboards... of course the other kids ate that right up!
Again, i found myself an outcast. Next thing ya know, i started runnin with it! Now i'm getting kicked out of school after school. Name a school in this town, i been in it! That was grade school.

Then my grandfather died, and i was fucked. Fucked up, and outta luck.

Here comes high school. I did'nt even begin school yet, and i got pressed on in my new neighborhood. I snapped. WAY too much bottled up aggression came flooding, and i left the punk lying in the street. This changed everything.

WhoA did i find high school a riot. I did'nt really have to go at all... and people thought i was downright insane. Mind you i'm still entirely sober. This is when the police fun began!

So then i was drinking some beers, smoking some pot... basically all i cared about was my job and screwing my g/f. Nobody liked that apparently. So two years of this shit, And they wanted to put me in a home. No, i was Sentenced to a boys home until i turned 18-21.

See, this is a great way to dump your unwanted children. You call the police on them, cuz they come home too late, time and again... next thing ya know, the state just owns them.

So i hitched to PA where i laid asphalt with some Gypsies. I was 15, and still pretty much sober. Little beer, little reefer, nothing to write home about, frankly.

I came back a year later. Now this is because i'm 16, and i want to drive and stuff, but im afraid of a warrant. Stupid me, it was a bench warrant for a juvenile, did'nt count worth a shit. Had i known i would never have returned, theres that path and them choices again. So i went to court, told me i'm now in the adult system, get out. Case closed.

HERES where i started the whole crazy pot trend. Acid too probably, just a little. Things suddenly got fun... hot chicks, hot cars, great drugs... OOPS... jail.

Well there goes a whole fucking year.

For a class A misdemeanor, a weapon in my car. I was'nt even IN my car... nor anywheres near it... nor was i fighting or indicating ANY intent whatsoever! Just had a knife in the back seat, found only after they tossed my vehicle illegally.
i got railroaded.. its a fact... personal shit with the judge and myself.

But wait... hey... WHY did i try drugs to begin with?
Not because "thats what outcasts do"
No man, i wanted to explore my mind. I wanted to see, taste, and feel different states. It was just exploration, i was interested, so i experimented. I liked it.

Yes, interested.
Around the time i was 15/16 i began to really get into music. I realized there was this whole generation of musicians, who found something magical... something different. Beatles, Hendrix, Sabbath, Syd Barrett & Pink Floyd, Janis Joplin, Cream, The Doors... this stuff was beyond fascinating to me. I found a common denominator... LSD. bingo!

Where did this other stuff come from? Like coke, crack, alcohol, pills, synthetics, etc? Mainly out of circumstance, it was there... combined with the same sense of curiosity. And honestly, a fair bit of the circumstances involved some pretty heavy depression. It did'nt matter much either way, what the end result was. You see, you really don't need any kind of drugs to just spiral down to rock bottom man. I'm not going to sit here and say OTHER PEOPLE caused my spiral, i believe I let people and things do it to me. Fuck, i was just a kid! I did not know how to shrug things off then.

So let's elaborate some on drugs themselves.

Cocaine/Crack... this shit showed me the worst that life has to offer... a real eye opener! It's the kind of thing that gets embedded into your soul. I had some really fun times too! Not with crack, no... not really. It's a paranoid thing. It feels awesome for like 2 seconds and then, you're closing blinds and shit. But coke? for sure. Its a nice stimulant when used properly.

Reefer, the "Devil's weed". I had my phase of being a joneser. Always smokin'.. morning till night. Not going nuts without it, i just always had it so why not smoke. No ill effects to speak of, just another "state of being". Normality. I grew out of that, and my use declined to the point where today, i really don't care at all. I usually pass.

Synthetics-
There are lots of these. Usually called "rave drugs". I've probably tried most, and mostly before i ever heard of a "rave". Crystal, Xtc, Ghb, etc... The only thing worth my while is the MDMA. Ghb and X sometimes have it as a base, but since the feds regulated it as a dangerous substance, rave drugs are different. You dont know what you're getting now, many cases it's heroin mixed with meth. Bad scene anymore... for females especially. It's OK (the good stuff) in my opinion, but not really worth the money.

Pills-
These can be great fun. Until you spend two years having panic attacks and crazy anxiety whenever you go into a large store filled with people. Uhm... nuff said.


LSD/Magic Mushrooms...
This is the stuff of madness and genius all rolled into one amazing psychedelic journey. I've never known happier times. You think so deep, music just overcomes you, colors have never been so vivid, feelings never so real... and life becomes all too surreal. And the lovely part... it's not addictive. However, if theres ever been one thing (as far as substances) i'm truly in love with, it would be tripping.

Initially i wanted to know what it would be like to be crazy, but i found i'm not the crazy one. Ok, maybe i'm just a little, but in a good way.

This for me isn't even a drug, it's religious. I'm not going to get into spirituality or anything here... but it means more to me, and is respected more by me, than any kind of recreational use of anything. It's entirely different. I don't honestly care about any other substances... and the sad thing about that... is everything else is just way too available, while trips are as elusive as bigfoot.


I suppose that's the story of my turbulent youth. Dunno why i'm posting it, either.
I don't feel i've ever been a "bad person", or harmed, or really did anything horrible to anyone. I wish i could say that i've been treated the same, but i don't feel like thats the case. I think i was just normal, and nobody would leave me be, so i did it anyway... and comedy ensued.

Lots of people have done me wrong, i've had all of my possessions stolen completely on 3-4 or more occasions, been lied to/cheated/cheated on/jumped, but never caught any STDs somehow, which baffles me.

It's been interesting, it's been hard sometimes, it's been great other times, overall though... it's just time, just life. Theres plenty more to go, and different choices to make. Am i here for any particular reason? Have the things i've done in some way better prepared me towards that end? I guess we'll see.

My head is an interesting place to visit sometimes, i know that much.

 

Let me add that all my drug adventures were done YEARS ago and the only thing I do now is have a Shiner or two. In fact, the last time I was truly drunk was at my bachelor party in March 2003.

Today, I simply cannot afford nor want to be clouded up by doing ellicit drugs. I have a lot of stuff going on in my life and don't have the time, or more importantly, the desire. With that said, I won't nag people for trying something in their college years because that would be prety damn hypocritical of me. I suppose the difference between me and others was that I was able to focus on the tasks at hand, i.e. college and work, and still have some youthful fun at the same time. Unfortunately, many people don't have enough self control to keep drug experimentation from becoming a lifestyle.

 

i dont want anything to become a lifestyle, other than taking a shower!

 

Gonz, your second to last post was brilliant. It made me realize that we take so much for granted and fail to realize how good we really have it.

It took me about a year of smoking to get to the point where I completely stopped caring for it. All it took was one summer of overindulgence and the entire appeal of it went up in smoke.

 

Whoa dude, thanks but, i don't think i deserve that at all...

as for seeing how good people have it, remember something...

no matter how bad it gets, how hopeless it looks, how everythings gone and ruined... It could always be worse. And further, somebody, somewhere, has it even worse than you do, right now. In fact, lots more people. We are indeed damn lucky, in the scope of things.


What kind of smoking did you mean? reefer i take it?
I have a good friend, who is just all about the weed. I dont know how to put in words the way he is, it would take too long... but i see him and i'm like "wtf dude, get a life!" not that i'd say that directly... but he's bout 28/29 years old, and he's kinda pathetic how he just wants to toke.

Other friends, are just normal... even the guys that do it lots. It's normality for em and i'm cool with that. I don't care about smoking, but i see no problems smoking now and then. I certainly don't miss it when i dont have it.

 

Gonz, what did you enjoy more, Shrooms or Acid?
I never tried Acid so I cant really say much about it but I think shrooms is as good as it gets. I am starting to get real frustrated because no one seems to have good shrooms around here. I hate paying 35 dollars and getting an 1/8 of body high shrooms. If you dont trip then it aint worth the money

P.S. When I say I, I mean a friend. When I say did any types of drugs, I mean he saw it being done in Amsterdam. :lmfao:

 

they are sorta different.

shrooms are natural, obviously, so they are "clean"

acid is synthetic, and can vary... but it's usually "speedy"

acid is the best, because it's so cheap... it's also more fun if you're looking to run around and do stuff.

shrooms are best because they are usually more visual, and not "speedy" so they'd be best for a mellow night.

i like them both, equally, just differently. i'd never hesitate to jump on either.
if i absolutely had to choose one.. then it would be acid, because it's so cheap and also harder to get. $30 gets you enough shrooms for two ppl, but $30 in acid is enough for 2 people to trip like 5 times over 5 weeks. (more, or less) Only one trip per week. Because of tolerances, you cant trip more than once a week, its just wasting drugs.

 

When you trip on Acid what is it like?

From what I understand, when you trip on shrooms you hallucinate over objects that are actually there but when you trip on Acid you see things that arent there. I could be wrong though.

 

sid is alot different now, than it was in the sixties.

i've never really seen things that were not there... but i've heard great stories from some ol' timers. Mostly it's alot of movement in objects, vivid colors, sometimes sounds are really amplified... but also, it kinda changes every time, because all acid is somehow different.

like i said, it's speedy... like lots of caffeine combined with shrooms, thats Acid. otherwise, i would not say that it's very much different, at all. One is mellow, the other more aggressive, but you see essentially the same effects.