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Discussion in 'General Car Audio Discussions' started by sandt38, Feb 2, 2004.

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  1. sandt38

    sandt38 Full Member

    Oh My... Butler Tube Driver Blue or new Pioneer HU?

    This is sweet

    Found it for $379... Look at the sweet EQ too. I love the smoke face too, the silver doesn't look right in my ride... Hmmmm

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    CD/ CD-R/ CD-RW/ WMA/ MP3 Player
    MOSFET 4 x 50 Watts
    XM Satellite Radio Ready
    Auto slide face plate
    8-character display for XM Radio text (no scroll) with GEX-P900XM or GEX-FM903XM
    16-character display for XM Radio text (full display) GEX-P910XM
    XM Mode (Channel/Category) key
    Steering Wheel Remote
    Rotary Volume Control
    EEQ Performance Chip
    13-Band Parametric Equalizer (Adjustable Level, Frequency and Q Factor)
    Easy EQ (EEQ) switches 5 Factory, 2 User EQ Presets (Super Bass, Powerful, Natural, Vocal, Flat, Custom 1 and Custom 2)
    Source Custom EQ Memory (Independent Custom Memory for each source)
    Selectable Loudness Control (Low/Mid/High/Off)
    SFEQ (Sound Focus EQ)
    Additional Independent Bass / Treble Control for Front / Rear
    Two-Way Crossover
    Front/Rear HPF (50/80/125Hz, -12dB/oct)
    Selectable LPF (Low Pass Filter) (50/80/125Hz, -18dB/oct)
    Sub-Out Level (-12dB to +12dB) and, Phase Control
    Independent Subwoofer Outputs
    IP-Bus System Control, MCD Control
    TV Tuner Control
    Auxiliary Input (CD-RB10 or CD-RB20 required)
    2 External Unit Control
    S.L.A. (Source Level Adjustment)
    ASL (Auto Sound Levelizer)
    Selectable Fader Control
    Hi-volt RCA Preouts (x3 pair, Front, Rear & Sub) (6.5V)
    8 Character LCD Display plus Organic EL (128x33) Display
    8-character LCD with LED backlighting on front faceplate
    Organic EL (128x33) Display on rear faceplate
    OEL display features Full-motion 3D graphic animations including:
    2 screensavers (Jet Ski, Sky Gate)
    2 Spectrum Analyzers and 3 Level Meters
    6 background animations
    Clock Display and Off (Text-only) modes
    16-character text display capability
    Adjustable brightness level (16-mode)
    Cellular Mute Capability (CD-CM1 required)
    Track Scan/Pause/Repeat/Random Play
    Audible Fast-Forward/Reverse (CD Audio)
    Playback Compatible with Digital CD-R and CD-RW
    Disc Title Memory (48 Discs), CD Text
    AGC (Automatic Gain Control)
    WMA (Windows Media Audio) & MP3 CD-ROM Playback capability
    ID3 & WMA Tag Capability (32 characters max, with Auto-Scroll)
    8x oversampling, 3-beam laser pick-up, 1-bit D/A Converter
    Anti-shock mechanism
    Chassis
    DIN Mountable
    Detachable Face (faceplate carrying case included)
    Dual-Motion Motorized Flap Face
    Radio
    Supertuner® III™
    24-Station/6-Button (18FM / 6AM) Presets
    BSM (Best Station Memory)Up/Down Seek with Selectable Local Seek Tuning
     
    sandt38, Feb 2, 2004
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  2. The_spacemonkey

    The_spacemonkey Full Member

    ug....tubes :p You would have thought they'd have gone the way of 8 track players by now.....oh well :)


    I vote for the HU.... that thing sure is perty.....






    BTW Sandt, have you seen that Tru is now making a tube amp?(Tube hybrid of course)..... Not sure if you care, just noticed your interested in tubes.
     
    The_spacemonkey, Feb 2, 2004
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  3. sandt38

    sandt38 Full Member

    Yeah, but the Butlers supposedly sound nicer, I hear they are very warm. Also, the Butlers are almost 1/3 the price of the Tru Copper (if you know where to look), and MUCH nicer looking IMHO.
     
    sandt38, Feb 2, 2004
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  4. The_spacemonkey

    The_spacemonkey Full Member

    Really? You got a link to the butler amp? I saw them a while back but dont remember what they look like. I think the copper series from tru is one of the best lookin amps. I love it.


    I agree though.... quite expensive. Too expensive for me.... not that I would ever buy a tube amp B)
     
    The_spacemonkey, Feb 2, 2004
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  5. BlkX

    BlkX Full Member

    That is probably their best looking HU i've seen in a while. Maybe aside from that Euro unit that used the Burr Brown DAC's. Still don't know that i could go back to Pioneer though....Eclipse will be the next venture i believe :).
     
    BlkX, Feb 2, 2004
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  6. flawlesskid

    flawlesskid Full Member

    I'd say you have little to gain with that HU Seth. My vote goes to the amp.
     
    flawlesskid, Feb 2, 2004
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  7. sandt38

    sandt38 Full Member

    Butler

    Go to the order section and select the 2150 unit.

    I have found them new for $599
     
    sandt38, Feb 2, 2004
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  8. trifle

    trifle Full Member

    When it all comes down to it, it's still a pioneer :p
     
    trifle, Feb 2, 2004
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  9. flawlesskid

    flawlesskid Full Member

    Which is the worst part of it! :stupid:

    But seriously, theres that 13 band PEQ which is definately nice, but i'd pass on it to the Butler amp. Thats the only big difference i see between the one you have and that one. Its purty, but heh, who cares? I barely use my 5 band PEQ. I could definately do without 13.
     
    flawlesskid, Feb 2, 2004
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  10. fugyaself

    fugyaself Full Member

    I think I found my new HU. Now the trouble is do I buy now or wait until SD and thezeb start to carry them for a price match. Prices may increase on this. :( what to do what to do.
     
    fugyaself, Feb 2, 2004
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  11. BlkX

    BlkX Full Member

    :blink:
     
    BlkX, Feb 2, 2004
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  12. The_spacemonkey

    The_spacemonkey Full Member

    IMO every system ever designed could benifit from a 13 band parametric EQ
     
    The_spacemonkey, Feb 2, 2004
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  13. chadillac3

    chadillac3 Full Member

    Yeah, but the Butlers supposedly sound nicer, I hear they are very warm. Also, the Butlers are almost 1/3 the price of the Tru Copper (if you know where to look), and MUCH nicer looking IMHO. [/b][/quote]
    Interesting statement there...who told you this? Not that many people have heard the TRU tube amps...
     
    chadillac3, Feb 2, 2004
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  14. BlkX

    BlkX Full Member

    IMO every system ever designed could benifit from a 13 band parametric EQ [/b][/quote]
    If it is used properly it CAN help. IMO, if you have to use all 13 bands of EQ on your system, you need to look at your install more closely.
     
    BlkX, Feb 2, 2004
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  15. sandt38

    sandt38 Full Member

    The guy calls himself fozz. he is an IASCA SQ competitor.
     
    sandt38, Feb 2, 2004
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  16. sandt38

    sandt38 Full Member

    IMO every system ever designed could benifit from a 13 band parametric EQ [/b][/quote]
    I currently use NO EQing. All my processing is amplifier, and my component crossovers. I do everything with install. Anyone who has sat in my car will tell you, it is VERY neutral.

    But, I have a feeling that when I do get done with my kicks I may need to dial down some around 10KHz, as the closer to on axis install promises to be considerably more bright than I prefer (which is another reason the Butlers are on my mind).
     
    sandt38, Feb 2, 2004
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  17. ScottS

    ScottS Full Member

    well Tru has a Hybrid and a True Class A true Tube amp. 25 watts rms :).


    I prefer the sound of a tube my self.

    To each is there own.
     
    ScottS, Feb 2, 2004
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  18. The_spacemonkey

    The_spacemonkey Full Member

    I currently use NO EQing. All my processing is amplifier, and my component crossovers. I do everything with install. Anyone who has sat in my car will tell you, it is VERY neutral.

    But, I have a feeling that when I do get done with my kicks I may need to dial down some around 10KHz, as the closer to on axis install promises to be considerably more bright than I prefer (which is another reason the Butlers are on my mind). [/b][/quote]
    I dunno... EVERY system has small(maybe tiny ) response variations that could be corrected. Ive sat at someones house and listened to Wilson audio "Watt Puppies" (~$20,000)and even those benifited from an EQ when we listened. EVERY house, car, whatever has diifferent reflections, diffraction, cancelation ect..... so no response will be perfect.
     
    The_spacemonkey, Feb 2, 2004
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  19. flawlesskid

    flawlesskid Full Member

    Who said they couldn't? I'm sure many would have a good use for the EQ, but i only stated that i dont use my 5 band PEQ, so i could do without a 13 band. I'm not much on EQing. If i had to choose between an HU who's only benefit over my current HU is looks and a 13 band para EQ, and a butler tube amp, or any amp that interest me actually, i'd take the amp.
     
    flawlesskid, Feb 2, 2004
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  20. Steven Kephart

    Steven Kephart Full Member

    We have the option of picking up Butler amps. But the buy-in is too high and we would probably never sell any. We haven't sold that many Arc amps, so I know no one would buy the Butler amps. The people around here just don't appreciate the finer things. :(

    That Pioneer head unit does look nice. I wish I could find (and afford) a similar processor to the 4000X so I could run a newer head unit.
     
    Steven Kephart, Feb 2, 2004
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