Subsonic Filter

Discussion in 'General Car Audio Discussions' started by fb4076, Jan 27, 2004.

  1. fb4076

    fb4076 Full Member

    What exactly is a subsonic filter. I have noticed that some subs require them and some do not, so what is it, and how do you get it? If it is not built into the sub, how do you go about getting one? Is it built in the amp?
     
  2. ScottS

    ScottS Full Member

    Just to set you on the right track and hopefully not to confuse you here i go


    A Subsonic filter is actually just a HP(HighPass Filter) for lower frequency's. Now what this does is attenuate the sound from whatever setting you have it at. IE You set the subsonic filter @ 28hz. It starts attenating volume (Lowering the volume) from 28 hz down. Most are around a 12dB/oct Attenuation. What this means is For each octive you drop 12 DB in noise or as some would say it decrese the sound 4x. As for some subs needing it not really. You dont have to have it. Just depends on the box and your setup. Some woofers are not capable of playing a subsonic sound given the installation or just the nature of the driver. This will help cut that sound out to stop from unwanted noises or to save the woofer. You normally want to set the subsonic around your tuning freq so that way your subwoofer will not play loudly below it. This way the subwoofer will not unload.

    I think i covered it.

    Scott Stoner
     
  3. sandt38

    sandt38 Full Member

    Boy you are wordy dude.

    By preventing frequencies below a ported enclosure's tuning, it simply eliminates unloading. Unloading can damage the driver.

    Basically, if you are using a ported box you may want to consider one, if you are sealing the drivers in question, it is not nessicary
     
  4. peter_euro

    peter_euro Full Member

    uh, cough... you guys just know too much... LOL... :rolleyes: I would think you would also optimize the use of your amp if you narrow down the frequencies played... Some of my home stereo gear actually had the infrasonic filters which I guess works on the other end of FR curve... hmmm, I do not see any infrasonic filters lately... must be that SACD thing... LOL... :p
     
  5. fb4076

    fb4076 Full Member

    Ok, I am going to have my subs in a ported box, so how would I go about getting a subsonic filter since I know they do not have one built in or something of the sort....
     
  6. ScottS

    ScottS Full Member

    Its normally built in to the amp on alot of amps. Which amps are you running?
     
  7. ScottS

    ScottS Full Member

    Thanks i get my insperation from geo
     
  8. fb4076

    fb4076 Full Member

    Hifonics BX1500D amp, just running that one to both of my subs. Would you recommend doing that or running two 700-750 watt amps? If you would recommend that, then what 750 watt amp would you say?
     
  9. sandt38

    sandt38 Full Member

    Thanks i get my insperation from geo [/b][/quote]
    LOL :p
     
  10. fb4076

    fb4076 Full Member

    what would you all say about a Kicker DX700, I do not know if it would come with a Subsonic filter though, I am running two 12-inch Solobaric L7 subs, so I thougt that the Kicker amp might work well with them, just do not know if it has a subsonic filter.
     
  11. SomeGuy

    SomeGuy Full Member

    The hifonics has a SSF and is a great amp :) What model are the L7's ? You'd have to get the dual 4 ohm version if you want to use the hifonics amp :)
     
  12. fb4076

    fb4076 Full Member

    no, they are the dual 2-ohm version. what amp should I use for that?
     
  13. SomeGuy

    SomeGuy Full Member

    You'll want something that puts out full power at 2 ohms basically. Which amp that does 1500rms @ 2 ohms is beyond me. I'd look into a pair of amps instead.
     
  14. sandt38

    sandt38 Full Member

    Cadence makes the Z1500 which is 2X750@1 ohm or 1500X1@2 ohms.

    I always reccomend Cadence gear, but unfortunately I cannot point you in the directtion of a Cadence dealer off hand.
     
  15. peter_euro

    peter_euro Full Member

    ebay? ;)
     
  16. sandt38

    sandt38 Full Member

    I'm keeping my eye on E-bay for some Butler Tube amps (2150 or 475), and a DEI 2500D

    Tubes and Kodas :ss:

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  17. fb4076

    fb4076 Full Member

    Would it have a subsonic filter built in?


    would the cadence amp that is......
     
  18. sandt38

    sandt38 Full Member

    Yep

    I run a Z7000 (1500@1) and to my knowledge all their HC amps have one
     
  19. fb4076

    fb4076 Full Member

  20. sandt38

    sandt38 Full Member

    The Z7000 is a 1500@ 1 ohm amp, you need 1500@2 ohms

    The Z1500 is the better amp of the 2 in your case. His price is fair, but you can find it cheaper.

    PS, A Z7000 is a huge amp also, the Z1500 is considerably smaller (6 inches or so shorter than the monsterous 2 foot long Z7000)