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The Viking · 04-03-2007, 10:20 PM

http://www.godhatesfags.com/main/index.html

Now, in case yall havenyt heard of the westboro church......go to that link.

Be prepared to get ****sed off.

Interestingly enough, about 3 years ago these people were gunna come to a funeral in my area for a protest....."someone" must have emailed them a letter that stated they would "best" not do what they were intending. They didnt show up. ALOT of folks were waitning for them to show up. Could have been a really good time......guess they dont like the methods of partying action folks in this area are into.....lucky for them, they might have gotton the idea that we didnt like them. hopefully next time they are gunna talk about bein in the area, someone can give them a nice warm invite and show them how to get along well with those that fight for our rights and freedoms along with those of other countries..... i am talkin about a nice turkey dinner and warm conversation of course.

Ranger SVO · 04-03-2007, 10:35 PM

As you now I attend a Christian University. The bible teaches that the gay life style is wrong and its a sin.

I was extremely happy when ACU allowed a Gay Christian group to speak at ACU. While we all believe that the gay life style is wrong, people should be allowed to express their opinions. And they were allowed to speak.

We mostly disagreed with what they had to say, but they were treated with respect and we listened. We listened because we are good Christians. In my opinion Westboro Church does not follow the teachings of our Lord Jesus Christ. We need to be tolerant of all, whether we believe in what they say or not.

But there is a proper time and place to speak, a funeral is not that place.

Anyway that my 10-cents worth.

Anyone considering a great Christian Education
http://www.acu.edu/

http://www.acu.edu/news/2007/070302_SBCampaigns.html

The Viking · 04-03-2007, 10:47 PM

I am a firm believer in live and let live. i believe that what you do on your own is none of my buisness. Even if it disagrees with my values. It is my right to piisss you off and it is your right to get piisssed off. and vice versa.

with that said......I will clear the air and let it be known that I am a follower of no faith...I am (gasp) an athiest.....in my personal opinion there is no god at all.

With that said, i have no desire to argue the rights or wrongs of any ones doings....BUT...i must also say that if i dont like what someone or a group of folks is doing, it is my right to protest it, just like the SOB's that protest fallen soldiers funerals...... It there is a hell, ihope those kock polishers burn in it!!!!

PS.....ranger....I have nothing against those that belive in religioun. I just dont subscribe to the idea. I hope you feel the same.

Ranger SVO · 04-03-2007, 10:59 PM

I love a good discussion, now you do realize that both Theism and Atheism are faith based positions. Either position cannot be proved conclusively. That is why they are called faith based positions.

Yes, you have the right to your belief and I Acknowledge your right. But your wrong.

The teachings at Westboro is inconsistant with the Christian faith as I have been taught it and tryed my best to live it.

opps, past my bed time, test in Linear Algebra tomorrow.

To be continued...............................

The Viking · 04-03-2007, 11:19 PM

"but i am wrong"

Well, fair enough, your teachings have led you to a thought that is instilled in your thoughts, values, and beliefs...and I am OK with that.

I dont see any truth in the values the christian faith holds dear, other than the very simple fact that what we do as a society is what drives our emotions and personal values. meaning that what a person does is not driven by relirioun, but by what is common sense and allows for ease of integration into ones society.

The bible has great spiritual values and moments of inspiration that are held true by even those that ddont subscibe to the idea of a god.

This is not saying that the book is an accurate and truthful writing, I am saying simply that the values of the book are generally held true in all courses of life and all coureses of religion.

My ideas are probably very similiar to most folks in the god fearin comunity, but I dont need or believe in a higher power to make sure i am doing the right thing.

I am not sain that al folks NEED a higher power to lead a good life or even that they need the preachins of a minister toset them in line. I am sayin that we inheritantly as a human race have evolved into a a species that as a whole, velues life and what we sahould do to otheres. (well, cept for a few idots in the world, well make that many instead of a few)

aznboi3644 · 04-04-2007, 12:29 AM

At my church we had a gay organ player for about 6-8 years...my priest told me that the church tolerates gays as the people they are...but the church does not tolerate the gay practices that gays do...like gay sex and such.

psycho_maniac · 04-04-2007, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by The Viking

I am a firm believer in live and let live. i believe that what you do on your own is none of my buisness. Even if it disagrees with my values.

I agree with this totally. I also believe if somebody believes in something and you don't like it just ignore it. The protests are dumb as he||

aznboi3644 · 04-04-2007, 01:39 AM

I am against abortion and was at the protest March in DC this past year

fuk baby killers

cccullen · 04-04-2007, 01:50 AM

Whenever the conversation gets into religion, i'm usually out the door just because it always ends up in an argument. So many different beliefs for so many different religions. i live in a prodominantly catholic country, and i've always been a catholic (non-practicing at the moment).

"The bible has great spiritual values and moments of inspiration that are held true by even those that dont subscibe to the idea of a god."

Vikings statement is very true, but i noticed that the bible could be understood in many different ways, most religions like to twist what the bible teachs but in my opinion i think that's what was meant to happen.

As for the gayt thing, personally i'm not a homophob I even knew a few. As long as they kept thier hands to themselves and they wouldn't look at me funny then i wouldn't have a problem. never made it a point to hang out with them but living where i live, you are bound to run into a lot of them.

For me, let people do what they want to do. As long as it has no effect on you then just let it be.

Can't really think straight today, hop ya'll understood my point. if not, blame it on my lack of sleep last night.

aznboi3644 · 04-04-2007, 02:05 AM

yeah...I'm fine with gays. until they hit on me or try to look at me gay...then I get ****ed.

I knew a few gay people...I just don't like the really really girl gay dudes out there...they annoy the hell outta me.

Gay chicks...I'm all for that though...unless they are fugly

Wbc

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