Diy Sub To Beat Klipsch Rw-10

[deyton]

I told my friend I could probably build something better than the Klipsch RW-10 for under 500 canadian. I've never heard it, so do you guys have any input?

I was thinking something like a shiva with this amp, or maybe the sx10.

[sandt38]

I run a Shiva with the 250 watt plate amp. It is extremely impressive. Also worth consideration is the Koda10 with that amp. My Koda arrived Tuesday and will begin HT chores very quickly. The sound of an XBL2 driver is simply indescribable, and I would say it is the cleanest, most transparent, most effortless bass this side of rotary servos.

Either way the Klipsh should be beaten fairly easily.

[geolemon]

Oh, the XBL^2 drivers have cleanliness and transparency all over the rotary servo drivers.

The rotary servo drivers are very cool, in that they have theoretically infinitely flat BL curves...
But there is a tiny bit of motor noise at low volume levels, where traditional loudspeakers are simply silent in operation save for the sounds they are supposed to be producing.

At higher output levels, that's where the rotary servo subs make you grin.. it's pretty outrageous in output - but that again is also where the XBL^2 drives make you grin, because their long stroke gives it real output capabilities.

[deyton]

So a tempest should pretty much demolish it?

[sandt38]

Originally posted by deyton@Jun 25 2004, 06:34 PM
So a tempest should pretty much demolish it?

A Shiva will demolish it, the Tempest will flat out anihilate it.

The Koda 10 should also crush it in output, and yeild CRAZY sound quality.

[deyton]

I just wonder how the SX10 stacks up to the Koda 10... I'll see what creative sound says.

[geolemon]

Is that the XBL^2 sub that CSS was selling?
I was wondering about that myself... my suspicion was that it was essentially the same driver, but that's only based on my observance of Xmax.

Stephen... are you allowed to say, or is that a no-no since CSS is technically a customer of yours? Certainly the latter is more than understandable.

[deyton]

From Bob at CSS:

The Koda 10 and the SX10 are virtually the same, one is Adire branded and the other is CSS OEM.

In modelling, it looks like the sx10 is more home audio oriented, needing bigger boxes and going lower.

[Steven Kephart]

Originally posted by geolemon@Jun 28 2004, 03:31 AM
Stephen... are you allowed to say, or is that a no-no since CSS is technically a customer of yours? Certainly the latter is more than understandable.

I'll just link you to what Dan said about it. Here's the link.

Semi OT (sorry): Hey Geo, did you see the latest Stereophile's ultimate AV? In it our Sadhara goes head to head with other subs (it was the cheapest). We creamed everyone in distortion levels, of course.

Steven Kephart
Adire Audio

[sandt38]

To save time...

I don't know why people keep saying they're so close; you don't even have to look past the Re to see a big 20% difference... And note that since BL typically increases with Re (and thus Qes increases with Re), and the Koda 10 has a lower Qes AND a lower Re, it must have a higher BL, which in fact it does (a good 12% difference).

Dan Wiggins
Adire Audio